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		<title>By: vasim</title>
		<link>http://www.davidkelly.ie/2008/06/18/zend_form-radio-buttons/comment-page-1/#comment-7702</link>
		<dc:creator>vasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Dave
 
    Many Thanks for this help.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Dave</p>
<p>    Many Thanks for this help&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.davidkelly.ie/2008/06/18/zend_form-radio-buttons/comment-page-1/#comment-4144</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mark, @firecall

Thanks for the comments guys.

I can relate to the frustration, however, I&#039;m wary of being overly harsh on problems with the docs, as I think it&#039;s a bit unfair because it&#039;s an open source project. When I started out with Zend, I found the learning curve incredibly frustrating (and made worse by problems I had understanding some of the docs); that is why I&#039;ve posted some stuff on this blog.  

I suppose the best way to address these problems is to do as Wil suggested above - contribute documentation back to the community; I also think that posting tutorials / fixes you&#039;ve worked out on blogs can be really helpful for others feeling the frustration you&#039;ve experienced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark, @firecall</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments guys.</p>
<p>I can relate to the frustration, however, I&#8217;m wary of being overly harsh on problems with the docs, as I think it&#8217;s a bit unfair because it&#8217;s an open source project. When I started out with Zend, I found the learning curve incredibly frustrating (and made worse by problems I had understanding some of the docs); that is why I&#8217;ve posted some stuff on this blog.  </p>
<p>I suppose the best way to address these problems is to do as Wil suggested above &#8211; contribute documentation back to the community; I also think that posting tutorials / fixes you&#8217;ve worked out on blogs can be really helpful for others feeling the frustration you&#8217;ve experienced.</p>
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		<title>By: firecall</title>
		<link>http://www.davidkelly.ie/2008/06/18/zend_form-radio-buttons/comment-page-1/#comment-4141</link>
		<dc:creator>firecall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>++ to the infuriating docs. They are annoyingly obtuse at times. 

It was easier to use google and find this blog post to grab the correct syntax than to use the official docs. So thanks for taking the time to write it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>++ to the infuriating docs. They are annoyingly obtuse at times. </p>
<p>It was easier to use google and find this blog post to grab the correct syntax than to use the official docs. So thanks for taking the time to write it <img src='http://www.davidkelly.ie/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.davidkelly.ie/2008/06/18/zend_form-radio-buttons/comment-page-1/#comment-3644</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I just have to say, your comments on the lack of documentation for the ZF are refreshing.  If I have to hear one more time that &quot;it&#039;s easy&quot; I&#039;m going to pull my hair out.  They&#039;re basically asking php programmers to completely re-learn how to build php and html pages.  OK, no problem, but how?  They tell you the what, but not the where.  For instance, they&#039;ll say just instantiate, such and such.... fine, but where? what file and what directory?  This tutorial illustrates just how incomplete their documentation really is.  There&#039;s nothing in their documentation on how to use an html radio buttons.  And why does every incarnation of the framework, use a different directory structure?  Everyone claims it&#039;s great, but the learning curve is so huge that it&#039;s only great if you have a month to sit down and recreate the wheel.  Anyway, thanks for all your efforts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I just have to say, your comments on the lack of documentation for the ZF are refreshing.  If I have to hear one more time that &#8220;it&#8217;s easy&#8221; I&#8217;m going to pull my hair out.  They&#8217;re basically asking php programmers to completely re-learn how to build php and html pages.  OK, no problem, but how?  They tell you the what, but not the where.  For instance, they&#8217;ll say just instantiate, such and such&#8230;. fine, but where? what file and what directory?  This tutorial illustrates just how incomplete their documentation really is.  There&#8217;s nothing in their documentation on how to use an html radio buttons.  And why does every incarnation of the framework, use a different directory structure?  Everyone claims it&#8217;s great, but the learning curve is so huge that it&#8217;s only great if you have a month to sit down and recreate the wheel.  Anyway, thanks for all your efforts!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.davidkelly.ie/2008/06/18/zend_form-radio-buttons/comment-page-1/#comment-3448</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aniket,

Glad to hear it helped.

I haven&#039;t tried horizontal alignment, but I&#039;m sure that you could do that using CSS (and definitely using some JavaScript &amp; CSS)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aniket,</p>
<p>Glad to hear it helped.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t tried horizontal alignment, but I&#8217;m sure that you could do that using CSS (and definitely using some JavaScript &amp; CSS)</p>
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		<title>By: Aniket Kedari</title>
		<link>http://www.davidkelly.ie/2008/06/18/zend_form-radio-buttons/comment-page-1/#comment-3445</link>
		<dc:creator>Aniket Kedari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for info. I was struggling a lot for radio buttons.
Can you tell me how can we aling radio buttons horizontally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for info. I was struggling a lot for radio buttons.<br />
Can you tell me how can we aling radio buttons horizontally.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.davidkelly.ie/2008/06/18/zend_form-radio-buttons/comment-page-1/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wil,

Thanks for the comment, and for passing it along. 

Yes, you&#039;re right of course, the issue tracker should have been my first stop...it will be next time :)

Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wil,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment, and for passing it along. </p>
<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right of course, the issue tracker should have been my first stop&#8230;it will be next time <img src='http://www.davidkelly.ie/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil Sinclair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil Sinclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy to hear that things are working for you now. I&#039;ll forward this to Matthew so he can address your concerns; if there are improvements to be made- documentation or otherwise- we should get them in to the issue tracker ASAP.

,Wil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to hear that things are working for you now. I&#8217;ll forward this to Matthew so he can address your concerns; if there are improvements to be made- documentation or otherwise- we should get them in to the issue tracker ASAP.</p>
<p>,Wil</p>
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